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Camilla Fogle's avatar

It all seems so programmed - form but no substance. It leaves kids hanging out to dry with little direction. I have a grandson who was traumatized by something similar.

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Liz Cooledge Jenkins's avatar

There are better ways forward! SO appreciate you writing about these things.

It's bringing to mind my InterVarsity days - I realized at some point, maybe during my year on staff there, that we counted conversions but not deconversions. We knew students "came to faith" during our conferences or large group meetings but then later decided that wasn't really what they wanted, or they felt they'd been manipulated into it and it wasn't real, etc., but we ignored the latter and only counted (and communicated to donors) the former...

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